4A. DNA Research
For questions or comments about this project or your results, please email vadimverenich@gmail.com or visit the Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae Project or MDLP "Behind the Curtains".
Kit Number: M061610 is of my DNA results. Once you log on you can just play around with the many options they offer. This is just one example of the many options available to you. You might need someone familiar with the concept of "DNA mapping" to help you.
Chr 1
Meso Native American (19-31M), (94-96M), (159M), (209M),
Arctic Native American (17-18M), (178-179M), (201M), (209-214M*),
South Native American 43-244M)
North Native American (5M), (29-30M), (94-97M), (209-211M), (243-246M),
Chr 2
Meso Native American (126-128M), (86M), (102M), (144-150M), (192-193*), (215M*)
Arctic Native American (15M), 23-28M), (102M), (114M), (192M)
South Native American
North Native American (0-1M), (26-28M), (59-60M), (73-74M), (106-108M), (119-121M), (151-156M), (158-169), (213-215)
Chr 3
Meso Native American (118M)
Arctic Native American (23-24), (71M), (116-118M), (88-89M),
South Native American
North Native American (6-8M), (23-26M), (30-32M), (38-44M*), (117-118M), (181-182M)
Chr 4
Meso Native American (80M), (136M)
Arctic Native American (63-67M), (175-176M), (181-182M), (180-182M), (186-190M)
South Native American (127-131M*), (127-131M)
North Native American (80-81M)
Chr 5
Meso Native American (67-69M)
Arctic Native American (89-91M), (135-139M)
South Native American
North Native American (78M), (95M), (191M), 141M)
Chr 6
Meso Native American (0-2M), (22-24M), (113-119M), (148-149M)
Arctic Native American (22-23M), (148-149M), (152M)
South Native American (148-149M),
North Native American (3-4M), (112-122M*), (167M)
Chr 7
Meso Native American (2M), (4-6M)
Arctic Native American (104-105M)
South Native American (0-2M), (34M)
North Native American (9M), (27M), (29-31M), (34-36M), (82-83M), (89-90M), (95M)
Chr 8
Meso Native American (3M)
Arctic Native American (106-108M), (108-109M)
South-Native American (60-63M), (85M)
North Native American
Chr 9
Meso Native American (193-194M)
Arctic Native American (19-20M), (137-139M)
South-Native American (19-23M),
North Native American (0-1M), (110M), (129-131M),
Chr 10
Meso Native American (123-124M)
Arctic Native American (53-54M), (111M)
South Native American
North Native American (2M), (13M), (96M), (124-126M), (130M)
Chr 11
Meso Native American
Arctic Native American (25-26M)
South Native American (7M*
North Native American (21M), (23M)
Chr 12
Meso Native American (45-46M), 129M)
Arctic Native American (108-112M)
South Native American
North Native American (15-16M), (18-19M), (29-37M), (91-92M), (96M)
Chr 13
Meso Native American
Arctic Native American (48-49M), (82M), (109M)
South Native American
North Native American (27M), 109M)
Chr 14
Meso Native American (25M), (73M), (80-81M)
Arctic Native American
South Native American
North Native American (80-91M), (97-98M)
Chr 15
Meso Native American (88-91M)
Arctic Native American (40-43M)
South Native American
North Native American (20-23M), (25M), (27-29M), (51-54M), (84-85M)
Chr 16
Meso Native American
Arctic Native American
South Native American (66-68M)
North Native American(55-58M*), (65-67M)
Chr 17
Meso Native American (3M)
Arctic Native American (32-33M), (40-41M), (62M), (65M)
South-Native American
North Native American (6-7M),
Chr 18
Meso Native American
Arctic Native American (1-2M)
South Native American
North Native American
Chr 19
Meso Native American (53M)
Arctic Native American (54M)
South Native American (35-37M), (53-54M)
North Native American (8-9M), (44M), (53M)
Chr 20
Meso Native American (16M)
Arctic Native American (0-2M), (15-16M), (58-59M)
South Native American
North Native American (16-17M), (34-35M)
Chr 21
Meso Native American
Arctic Native American (27-28M)
South NativeAmerican (14M),
North Native American (14M), (30-31M), (42-44M)
Chr 22
Meso Native American
Arctic Native American
South Native American
North Native American (47M),
The astirick (*) denotes a significant amount of DNA at this location is of a Native origin. They found Native American DNA on every chromosome for me! Not a lot, but it is there. Folks, it isn’t just “statistical noise” when it is so evenly distributed.
This website will also breakdown all your DNA for all your ancestors. Play around with the options they provide.
A Table of Percentages
Once you’ve logged onto gedmatch, you should be taken to a page entitled “Tools for DNA & Genealogy Research”. There are a list of websites linked under the title “Information”. These are helpful comments concerning use of DNA information. Under that, is a file named “Upload your DNA files”. Go there to upload the information about your DNA that was sent to you, after you had turned your DNA into them for testing. Once the gedmatch website has received your DNA information, it will give that information a number. Below that, is a section of files under the title “DNA Applications”. These are various algorithms used and created by various individuals to test ancestry of those wishing to discover their ancestry.
Unfortunately, none of them were created specifically to determine Native American ancestry. However there is one that does a better job at this than the others. Under “DNA Applications” click on “admixture heritage”. That will take you to a page entitled “Admixture Utilities”. Select MDLP Project. Go down and use “Admixture Percentage by Chromosome”. Then hit “continue”. You will be taken to a place that will ask you for the kit number assigned to your DNA information. Enter it. Then hit “continue” again. You will be asked to “Select the calculator model to use” I used “world-22” which created the information below. Others are pretty good, too.
Some of it makes no sense, but I thought the Native American part of the algorithm is correct, pretty much. However others were probably more accurate in other areas of the world.
I’d suggest using any of those MDLP algorithms, just to see what they provide. Some might fit your known genealogy information better than others. These algorithms were developed from Lithuanian sources. They have no pro-Native American bias. But they have no anti-Native bias, as seems to be the case with other testing algorithm's.
Population Percentage (%)
Pigmy 0.031818182
West Asian 8.186363636
North European Mesolegic 3.427272727
Indo-Tibetan 0.222727273
Meso-Amerindian 0.140909091
Arctic-Amerindian 0.318181818
South Amerindian 0.413636364
Indian 1.213636364
North Siberian 0.322727273
AtlanticMediteranianNeolithic 32.44545455
Samoedic 0.709090909
Indo-Iranian 1.913636364
East Siberian 0.140909091
Northeast-European 47.39545455
South African 0.177272727
North Amerindian 0.545454545
Sub Saharan 0.25
Southeast Asian 0.095454545
Near East 1.668181818
Melanesian 0.077272727
Paleo Siberian 0.172727273
Austronesian 0
N. A. + Siberian 2.763636364
African 0.020867769
ME+Iran+India+SEAsia 13.15454545
Conclusion
I put the Siberian with the Native American. This includes Meso-Amerindians, Arctic Amerindian, South Amerindian, North Siberian, Samoedic, North Amerindian, and Paleo Siberian. I placed Indian (Asian Indian) with the Middle East and Southeastern Asia.
The African is probably undercounted, too. Perhaps it was mistakenly counted as from India or the Middle East. This says 13% of my ancestors came from southern Asia. From Anatolia to Vietnam. I have only one ancestor that might have come from that region, and that’s all. That should make me 7% AT MOST, and this result doubles that! Also percent of African is far lower than what my 2005 test suggested. If 7% of my Middle Eastern/Indo-Iranian/Southeast Asian results went to African leaving 6% for that possible Jewish ancestor, that could account for the differences in the two results. Yet I have just one possible Jewish ancestor while I have a minimum of three to six possible Native American ancestors. However most of those were long ago.
I have to conclude many DNA algorithms discount people who say they have Native American ancestry, and artificially inflate other nationalities or regions due to some internal bias they hold. For instance the people of India have Blacks in Southern India, Asians in Tibet and Burma (Myanmar), Indo-European ancestry to the Northwest, and Middle-Eastern to the direct west of India and Pakistan. These races are all mixed in much of India. This is a similar status of the Melungeon peoples in America, who are also tri-racial. The difference being our European DNA came from the U. K. or Germany rather than the Russian Steppes, our Blacks from Africa rather than southern India, and our Asian from Native Americans rather than from Tibet or Miramar (Burma). Well, this is all supposition and could probably be easily disproven. I would like to see geneticists ACTUALLY disprove it rather than to smugly just say it is nonsense. As I would have said when I was younger to any math student -- so I would also say to any geneticist – show me your work! How do you get from point A to point B? Don’t assume you have it right -- NOW -- because the moment you do that you will quit searching.
Finally, I want to conclude that all we ever expected to find were small amounts from between 1/8th to 1/128th. When you toss out small values as nothing but “statistical noise” it skews the results and causes other DNA groups to be artificially maximized in order make the total reach 100%. They should NOT toss small DNA values aside.
Use Your Brain
Now at this point you need to use your brain. If you know your ancestors hve been in America for two hundred years, there is NO WAY for you to hve had an ancestor from India containing 10% Asia or Persian -Indian Ancestry. The only way for your ancestors to have been Gypsies is if Gypsy after Gypsy to have married into your family for generations... Do your genealogical records show several Gypsy surnames entering your family tree for generations? The same is true for Portuguese or some other nationality -- If someone says your Melungeon ancestor was "Portuguese -- look for a Portuguese surname in your lineage. Just think it through -- that's all I am asking.
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